Sacred band of thebes unknown an army comprised of 150 pairs of homosexual lovers. Their finest hour came at the battle of leuktra, under the theban general epaminondas. In 300 the movie, leonidas sneeringly refers to the athenians as boy lovers. Mar 06, 2017 the sacred band of thebes is a much discussed military unit from ancient greece, which became famous for breaking the spartan hegemony in the 370s bc. What is the consensus among historians about the sacred band.
A year later philip divorced olympias, and, after a quarrel at a feast held to celebrate his fathers new marriage, alexander and his mother fled to epirus, and alexander. Here the athenians still had some key allies, protecting the grain. Edward carpenters iolaus,1902 the sacred band of thebes, or theban. Theban commander gorgidas is credited with the creation of the sacred band in 378 bce. From what ive read, the sacred band was a unit of 300 elite soldiers that formed one of thebes best military units. Sacred band of thebes show notes in this episode of the podcast, we investigate whether a mysterious army of lovers known as the sacred band of thebes really dominated greece in the 4th century bce. I will try to release another chapter this week if possible.
The sacred band of thebes, what monkees do with money and. During the battle of chaeronia, they stood and fought to. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by the miniatures page. Raw moments in myth and history 150 military couples end. Back in the fourth century, there was an elite group made up of 150 pairs of men. It was believed these men would make better warriors. The sacred band became thebes greatest military asset.
That is so cool that it is your favorite topic, i will. The presence of carthaginian citizens fighting as infantry in these armies is unusual as carthaginian citizens usually only served as officers or cavalry in the carthaginian armed forces. Mar 19, 2017 according to the ancient sources, the sacred band of thebes was an elite unit of the theban army consisting of 150 pairs of male lovers. It has been recorded that the sacred band was originally created by the boeotarch known as gorgidas. It very clearly says the most famous case of military pederasty in greek history was the sacred band of thebes on page 60 of ludwig, which is the main citation of this article. For forty years, they were considered the greatest fighting force on earth. Til of the sacred band of thebes who were 300 elite. The army won every battle until it was finally defeated by.
Yes, i was just recently reading about them quite recently, and i found them incredibly interesting as well. The sacred band of thebes was a troop of select soldiers, consisting of 150 pairs of male lovers which formed the elite force of the theban army in the 4th century bc, ending spartan domination. Thus was the motivation for the sacred band of thebes, an elite greek fighting force of 150 pairs of lovers. They were undefeated untill their final battle in which they were vastly out numberd but history records that those 300 stood their ground against impossible odds. The sacred band predominance began when led by the general pelopidas, alongside epaminondas who commanded the army of thebes, in a crucial role where they were responsible for the defeat of the spartans at the decisive battle of leuctra in 371 bc. Memorable quotes and exchanges from movies, tv series and more. The citadel of thebes was called the cadmeia, after cadmus brother of europa, phoenix and cillix after this the boeotians formed a defensive league repelled the athenians in 424 bce later the thebans destroyed the spartans land forces and became premier power in greece sacred band sacred band comprised of homosexual partners. War and battle in the greek world, 800168 bc strauss major. The stalemate was broken by the arrival of the seventh boeotarch. The fourth sacred war or amphissean war 339339 bc was the final. Jun 09, 2011 the sacred band of thebes lives on, a world away, in this mythic novel of love in war in ancient times. Tmp sacred band of thebes topic the miniatures page.
The sacred band of thebes was celebrated throughout greece for their courage, and in fact they are credited as being a key part of the rise of thebes to prominence within the 4 th century b. A total of 230 boats were taken, judged to be prizes of war, broken up. Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient greece was regarded as contributing to morale. Also, soon will have some new novels up here, eternal god emperor, and also thinking of.
To claim that these relationships were not pederastic, you need to cite a secondary source, rather than your own interpretation. Its predominance began with its crucial role in the battle of leuctra in 371 bc. The band was composed of pairs of lovers, normally made up of an older soldier who had taken on the job of mentoring a some. The sacred band of thebes, what monkees do with money and more, in yet another 10 quick facts why there isnt a movie about this guy is a mystery. The chief example is the sacred band of thebes, a unit said to have been formed of samesex couples. Jul 01, 2007 the sacred band of thebes ancient greek. Til of the sacred band of thebes who were 300 elite soldiers. It is the only time in history that homosexual soldiers have been deliberately assembled, let alone paired and allowed to fight alongside their lovers. The sacred band of thebes was an elite fighting unit within the ancient theban army of the 4th century bc.
May, 2014 the sacred band of thebes entirely made up of male lovers may, 2014 melissa 7 comments in the 4th century b. The sacred band of thebes is a tr short story, and thus belongs to him alone, but the tale is true, based on plutarch and other ancient sources. The sacred band of thebes entirely made up of male lovers. This is though to be hypocritical since there was homosexuality in their ranks as well but, theyre two separate groups of men. Victor lustig was a conartist who managed to sell the eiffel tower to a scrap metal dealer and get away with it. And so spartan dominance of greece was broken ibid. Dec 17, 2014 adds a new unit, theban sacred band, an elite hoplite unit for the boiotian league. Broken ground, fear, exhaustion, and human preservation instinct all made it. In this state it is of a globulous shape, exceeds not the bigness of a grain of sand, and no. The reason they arent higher is because, besides the sacred band of thebes, the rest of the army was usually defeated by stronger greek citystates. Adds a new unit, theban sacred band, an elite hoplite unit for the boiotian league. Sacred band of thebes, elite gay soldiers heritagedaily.
The sacred band of thebes was a troop of select soldiers, consisting of 150 pairs of male. An army comprised of 150 pairs of homosexual lovers. Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient greece simple. Using the ancient sources, some of which refer only obliquely to the sacred band, the author attempts to present a linear history of this elite military unit includes chapters on the spartans, greek warfare, the delphic oracle, and features an earthquake, a tidal wave, halleys comet, war, politics, religion, sex, violence, maps, illustrations, a massive pile of endnotes, a. Keriv6 some difficult phrases to translate in this, but i made do and also made a few improvementschanges while editing.
The 300 men were the handpicked elite fighting force known as the sacred band of thebes. The 6 most cynical exploitations of romantic love in history. New elite unit theban sacred band for wrath of sparta. What is the consensus among historians about the sacred. Apr 02, 2012 while the story of the sacred band of thebes is well known and the band itself is mentioned in almost every history of greece, there exists no complete chronological account of its formation, activities, and eventual destruction. Ancient assassins sacred band of thebes tv episode 2016 quotes on imdb.
Sacred band of thebes how is sacred band of thebes abbreviated. Til of the sacred band of thebes who were 300 elite soldiers made up of 150 pairs of male lovers. Its predominance began with its crucial role in the battle of leuctra in 371bc. For 40 years, the sacred band of thebes outarmied every. Connect to your existing cracked account if you have one or create a new cracked username. Ancient assassins sacred band of thebes tv episode 2016. It is said to have been organised by the theban commander gorgidas in 378 bc and to have played a crucial role in the battle of leuctra. The spartan tradition of military heroism has also been explained in light of strong emotional bonds resulting from homosexual relationships. The sacred band of thebes an elite military unit famously fell at the battle of chaeronea in 338 bc against philip ii and alexander the great. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters. Incredible stories podcast ep 1 the sacred band of thebes duration. It is said to have been organized by the theban commander gorgidas in 378 bc and to have played a crucial role in the. Historically, the sacred band of thebes was a picked force of 150 male couples 300 soldiers, forming the elite of the theban army in the 4th century bce.
While it can be argued that gorgidas idea of having lovers side by side helped in pitched battle. Sacred band of thebes simple english wikipedia, the free. In 338 bce, during the battle of chaeronea that results in the massacre of the sacred band of thebes, the legendary tempus and his stepson cavalry rescue twentythree pairs of theban sacred banders, paired lovers and friends, to fight on other days. It is said to have been organised by the theban commander gorgidas in 378 bc and to have played a crucial role in the. Dec 31, 2016 if you mean to ask if the men of the sacred band engaged in malemale sex, then yes, it seems almost certain that they did.
Particularly, he could finish the sacred war, which the thessalians, thebans, and. New elite unit theban sacred band for wrath of sparta campaign. The army won every battle until it was finally defeated by philip of macedonia and his son alexander the great. The earliest surviving record of the sacred band by name was made in 324 bc. All members in good standing are free to post here.
The sacred band of thebes, what monkees do with money and more, in yet another 10 quick facts quick fact 881. Theban sacred band, the sacred band of thebes hail caesar. This is sacred band of thebes by ryan mcnamara on vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them. While the story of the sacred band of thebes is well known and the band itself is mentioned in almost every history of greece, there exists no complete chronological account of its formation, activities, and eventual destruction.
The sacred band of carthage is the name used by greek historians to refer to an infantry unit of carthaginian citizens that served in carthaginian armies during the fourth century bc. The german psychologist karoly maria benker coined the term homosexuality in the late 19th century, but while many people consider homosexuality to be a modernday phenomenon, it has actually existed in all cultures and at all times in history. This book immerses you into the lives of people in ancient greece, lives of homosexual male couples making up a very famous greek army, the sacred band of thebes. Ruins of the theban citadel of cadmea, where the sacred band was stationed like many subjects in ancient greece, the sacred band of thebes is one that exists somewhere in that gray area between history and legend. Dec 28, 2016 ruins of the theban citadel of cadmea, where the sacred band was stationed like many subjects in ancient greece, the sacred band of thebes is one that exists somewhere in that gray area between history and legend. It was annihilated by philip ii of macedon in the battle of chaeronea in 338 bc.
Parts of the statue had broken off and a good deal of it still remained buried. It is an army that stood undefeated until they met king philip and his son alexander the great in a great battle that wiped them all out. This plain produces sesame plentifully, as also panic and millet and barley and wheat. Prior to its destruction by alexander in 335 bc, thebes was a major force in greek history, and was the most dominant citystate at the time of the macedonian conquest of greece. The sacred band of thebes lives on, a world away, in this mythic novel of love in war in ancient times. Was hercules a member of the sacred band of thebes. The sacred band of thebes, what monkees do with money and more, in yet another 10 quick facts. The band was destroyed by philip ii of macedon in 338 bc during the battle of chaeronea. The sacred band consisted of a small heavy infantry unit of 20003000 men, who were inferior to none among them as to birth, wealth, or reputation and distinguished by the splendour of their arms, and the slowness and order of their march. Ancient greek superpower the spartan army, confronts the three hundred warriors of the sacred band of thebes. Using the ancient sources, some of which refer only obliquely to the sacred band, the author attempts to present a linear history of this elite military unit includes chapters on the spartans, greek warfare, the delphic oracle, and features an earthquake, a tidal wave, halleys comet, war, politics, religion, sex, violence, maps, illustrations, a massive pile of endnotes, a huge bibliography, a timeline, glossary, lists of personal and place names, etc. They were thought to have been organized by theban commander gorgidas in 378 bc. In 375 bc the bands command was transferred to the younger boeotarch known as pelopidas, who was one of the original exiled with gorgidas.
The sacred band of thebes is a much discussed military unit from ancient greece, which became famous for breaking the spartan hegemony in the 370s bc. Sacred band of thebes topic tmp the miniatures page. Feb 07, 2017 back in the fourth century, there was an elite group made up of 150 pairs of men. Sacred band of thebesarchives2014september wikipedia. The upcoming graphic novel the sacred band of thebes, based on the true story of the greatest fighting force of ancient greece. Love this mod but i have a special request can you make this unit for at least epirus and make horns on the helmet that look like stag hornsantlers and stagg or deer on the shields. The sacred band of thebes are athenian greeks, the men in 300 are spartans. In this episode of the podcast, we investigate whether a mysterious army of lovers known as the sacred band of thebes really dominated greece in the 4th century bce. The 300 men of thebes sacred band 150 pairs of male lovers. Jul 11, 2011 while the story of the sacred band of thebes is well known and the band itself is mentioned in almost every history of greece, there exists no complete chronological account of its formation, activities, and eventual destruction. I couldnt see anything on your blog and its my favourite topic in queer history. Ive also read that the unit was formed out of 150 pairs of lovers an older erastes. They immediately reported their discovery when they returned to athens.